tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post994594191360124360..comments2023-11-05T02:10:50.039-07:00Comments on Drape's Takes: Edublogger Etiquette - Responding To CommentsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-71022864424352398652009-06-24T10:07:41.837-06:002009-06-24T10:07:41.837-06:00Perhaps we should adopt a policy of "do what ...Perhaps we should adopt a policy of "do what works for you... with manners."<br /><br />This was a very enlightening blog entry. Thanks, everyone!Julia Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03616896878801546319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-43930718798020248202008-07-30T12:20:00.000-06:002008-07-30T12:20:00.000-06:00Darren, I appreciate this post and the issues you ...Darren, I appreciate this post and the issues you raise. Like any new technology, we just have to figure out the "rules" as we go along. Personally, I appreciate being able to "lurk and learn" without the pressure of leaving a comment. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for your insightful blog!the changing brainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00632230313372117401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-21919938932195617172008-05-29T15:06:00.000-06:002008-05-29T15:06:00.000-06:00An idea related here that I think few educational ...An idea related here that I think few educational bloggers consider:<BR/><BR/>"The mere technological possibility of reply isn't enough to overcome the human limits of attention." (Shirky, 2008, p. 93)Darren Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578208859042859340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-72423385045592676462008-05-06T06:18:00.000-06:002008-05-06T06:18:00.000-06:00As a newbie to web2.0, I prefer reading blogs that...As a newbie to web2.0, I prefer reading blogs that are conversations as my purpose is to learn. I especially enjoy comment sections where readers respond to other readers’ comments and where the author is also a part of the conversation. This keeps my interest and encourages me to add my own comment. <BR/>Grace KatGrace Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01424666758406092265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-64826699969038610562008-05-04T22:37:00.000-06:002008-05-04T22:37:00.000-06:00I agree with Jared that "I don't think anyone but ...I agree with Jared that "I don't think anyone but the individual authors should define commenting etiquette" however blogging and commenting on blogs is about my personal learning. It takes time to write comments so my decision is if I feel my comments aren't valued by the blogger I restrain myself from writing comments on their blog. <BR/><BR/>Engaging with your community, by commenting back to readers on your own posts, if you are blogging for your personal learning means that your learning and your readers learning will be greater plus you will probably see greater interaction between readers. <BR/><BR/>My readers know that I value the conversations and encourage them. To me blogging is about having conversations. I don't promise to respond promptly as that's not feasible for me but I do try my best -- which does prove that it is possible with high comments levels (considering I have two blogs). I would rather have a vibrant community that learns together on a blog than have high rankings. <BR/><BR/>Sue Waters<BR/><A HREF="http://aquaculturepda.edublogs.org/" REL="nofollow">Mobile Technology in TAFE</A>Sue Watershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13230898483382609377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-76551749018918088502008-05-02T11:27:00.000-06:002008-05-02T11:27:00.000-06:00The other issue here is one of quantity. The more ...The other issue here is one of quantity. The more people you have, the more loose the the conversation. Having a limited readership enables you to have tight, focused discussion. Try holding a meeting with 100 people and ask everyone to participate, it's not only chaotic but difficult to be attentive to all voices. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Loose conversations are still valuable and doesn't mean authors have to participate fully.DRShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15055490866531065692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-86979994633235993912008-05-02T10:12:00.000-06:002008-05-02T10:12:00.000-06:00Stephen,With some commenters, one has no choice bu...Stephen,<BR/><BR/>With some commenters, one has no choice but to give them the last word. Hah!<BR/><BR/>Dougdoug0077https://www.blogger.com/profile/05051218236258080492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-40701534059073831132008-05-02T10:07:00.000-06:002008-05-02T10:07:00.000-06:00I think this points out how subjective all this is...I think this points out how subjective all this is. My "turf" comment is not about all response comments, but is just a feeling I get sometimes. I love it when I comment on something and someone actually responds!<BR/><BR/>It's never what you write (or say) that counts, it's what the other person reads (and hears). Everyone is going to read blogs and comments through the filter of their own experience. And we all know that "tone" is notoriously hard to determine in these kinds of communication.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if all this discussion of "rules" and such will be more off-putting and constraining than any perceived violation.Sylviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07197716318141984888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-11795295334381711832008-05-02T10:06:00.000-06:002008-05-02T10:06:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sylviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07197716318141984888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-41548453193273768102008-05-02T09:46:00.000-06:002008-05-02T09:46:00.000-06:00Darren - responses to your post have given me lots...Darren - responses to your post have given me lots of food for thought. <BR/><BR/>Firstly I would hate to think that people felt my responding to comments that "it's almost like they are protecting their "turf" a little too aggressively." There are a lot of bloggers that do this because it engages their readers and creates a community where their readers interact with each other. <BR/><BR/>It is hard work responding to readers comments but it also takes time for them to write those comments. Just saying a collective thanks for your comments and how the comments have reinforced or changed your views is nice. To be totally ignored isn't nice. <BR/><BR/>Sue Waters<BR/><A HREF="http://aquaculturepda.edublogs.org/" REL="nofollow">Mobile Technology in TAFE</A>Sue Watershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13230898483382609377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-12334963147428245062008-05-02T06:08:00.000-06:002008-05-02T06:08:00.000-06:00I dont think there is any easy clear answer to thi...I dont think there is any easy clear answer to this issue. There could be a wide range of interpretations. Blogging could be seen as a form of personal publishing, and we would not expect an ongoing dialogue with every reader of a journal article. Or if we look at the lifehacker article on good commenting, it could be said the author should also not be 'commenting for the sake of it', if they dont have anything further to add. Personally, I love being able to go back and see that my comment has been acknowledged, but I understand that time is something none of us have enough of - if the authors of the really busy blogs replied to every comment, they might never have time to write new posts. :)Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04546460491822773036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-69999976984840229932008-05-01T19:23:00.000-06:002008-05-01T19:23:00.000-06:00To the question "are there rules. . ." I think yes...To the question "are there rules. . ." I think yes, but simple ones. My students started blogging in January. I told them that they just needed to remember two things. First was that behind every post and comment was a real person. Secondly, that whatever they wrote to a classmate (it's a closed circle with us) they needed to make sure they wrote with a tone of kindness. My students are 11, but I think the same concept applies to adults, although I might use the word respect instead. Although I still appreciate the two kind comments I've gotten on my insignificant, personal reflection blog. Even when we disagree, the (sort of) permanent nature of blogging and commenting means that what one said sticks around and represents the author long after the heat of debate is over. Tone and attitude matter, and I've really think the edublogosphere sets an example others could follow.Sarah Hanawaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16562865776353395978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-77121655358668250992008-05-01T18:46:00.000-06:002008-05-01T18:46:00.000-06:00Some great points above. One aspect I violated la...Some great points above. One aspect I violated last week and later apologized about...moving from one media to another but not citing the source of the questioner in deciding to blog. This happened with me. I got a very insightful email in response to a tweet, and immediately blogged about it. I did not, however, cite the person who framed the question and led me to blog. He felt slighted by the omission. This has become a lesson learned for me and I now look to carefully give credit where credit is due.Britt Watwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487014790973980773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-77838600715016608922008-05-01T16:35:00.000-06:002008-05-01T16:35:00.000-06:00I don't think anyone but the individual authors sh...I don't think anyone but the individual authors should define commenting etiquette, and then never beyond the scope of their own blogs. There may be social or PR consequences of commenting or not commenting, but it's too limiting to define rules that should somehow fit everyone, when not everyone blogs the same way with the same objectives.Jared M. Steinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16298048399299003074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-28650814197432358442008-05-01T14:46:00.000-06:002008-05-01T14:46:00.000-06:00There is no obligation to respond to a comment.For...There is no obligation to respond to a comment.<BR/><BR/>For myself, I often allow the commenter to have the last word. <BR/><BR/>I respond to comments only if I have something particular to say.Stephen Downeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06140591903467372209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-11871632046393518572008-05-01T13:18:00.000-06:002008-05-01T13:18:00.000-06:00Thanks for the post, Darren. Clearly, there are a ...Thanks for the post, Darren. Clearly, there are a number of issues here and the answer isn't so straight forward as I first thought. <BR/><BR/>On the one hand, I agree with those who write their blog mostly for their personal learning - having people leave comments is a bonus. But why make it public, if you do not want to engage with people?<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, I appreciate that responding to individual comments can be time consuming, especially if you have a lot of comments and most of them are irrelevant.<BR/><BR/>So I can only speak from personal experience. I respond to all comments because I do not have many, and I want to do all I can to encourage conversation - I am trying to role model in a profession (health) where people don't know much about blogging and social networking. As someone who leaves comments, I just love it when the blogger responds personally, particularly if he/she is a 'name'. If I leave a few comments and do not get any kind of feedback, then I lose interest and stop visiting that blog.Sarah Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00480597227427423793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-31129577535096126332008-05-01T13:01:00.000-06:002008-05-01T13:01:00.000-06:00Doug,I thought of you specifically when I mentione...Doug,<BR/><BR/>I thought of you specifically when I mentioned that some bloggers prefer to email responses to comment writers. When you have responded via email to comments that I have made on your blog, it has had a huge impact on me - really made me feel like you valued my input.<BR/><BR/>While this post may seem a little unfair to Will, I haven't intended for it to be as I have also valued the email responses he's sent directly to me.Darren Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578208859042859340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-61359293322698648582008-05-01T12:57:00.000-06:002008-05-01T12:57:00.000-06:00Mike wrote:I use my blog to reflect on my learning...Mike wrote:<BR/>I use my blog to reflect on my learning. If someone enjoys reading it - that's great<BR/><BR/>You know, Mike...I think this is the key to blogging for me. I'm not necessarily looking for a conversation when I'm blogging. Instead, I'm using writing as a form of personal reflection.<BR/><BR/>If others jump into the conversation and challenge my thinking, that's an added benefit. If they don't, I'm not heartbroken at all. <BR/><BR/>I tend to respond to comments that challenge my thinking----through new posts, most often. Comments that don't challenge my thinking I don't respond to. <BR/><BR/>Not sure if that hurts my readership at all---but I'm not concerned with readership so it doesn't matter! <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the great post, Darren....<BR/><BR/>BillBill F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06569401112555104479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-83228382673177301642008-05-01T12:50:00.000-06:002008-05-01T12:50:00.000-06:00This is a really interesting topic. Is there a gro...This is a really interesting topic. Is there a growing elite clique in the edubloggosphere? I have heard several edubloggers state that they feel there is. Should there be? Obviously, there are blogs that are read much more than others. Does that make an unofficial hierarchy of edubloggers? As one of the insignificant edubloggers out there I don't have a problem with knowing my Technorati rank is low. I use my blog to reflect on my learning. If someone enjoys reading it - that's great. I do try to respond to comments where appropriate because I see my blog as a conversation. I just don't know how hard it would be if I had a larger audience to keep up with it all.<BR/><BR/>Doug,<BR/>Keep responding to comments. I like it when the blogger responds to questions I have with another post or an additional comment.Mike Arsenaulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07958802766870620541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-45942773469575005542008-05-01T12:41:00.001-06:002008-05-01T12:41:00.001-06:00Hi Sylvia,Yikes. I am one of the people who try to...Hi Sylvia,<BR/><BR/>Yikes. I am one of the people who try to respond to each comment. I've always seen it as politeness, not turf protection. <BR/><BR/>Do I need to re-evaluate?<BR/><BR/>Dougdoug0077https://www.blogger.com/profile/05051218236258080492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-15612373060447737342008-05-01T12:41:00.000-06:002008-05-01T12:41:00.000-06:00As someone who gets a lot of traffic (and comments...As someone who gets a lot of traffic (and comments), there's no way to respond to them all. I also agree with Sylvia. I think most of us do what we can to respond, support, and nurture others, but it's also important to have realistic expectations of what's feasible.Scott McLeodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08368435018346090846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-61907902321202161502008-05-01T12:24:00.000-06:002008-05-01T12:24:00.000-06:00Sometimes when I see a blogger respond to each and...Sometimes when I see a blogger respond to each and every comment, it's almost like they are protecting their "turf" a little too aggressively.<BR/><BR/>Especially in the Will Richardson example, can't he leave his readers alone to have a conversation? Why does he have to be the focus?Sylviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07197716318141984888noreply@blogger.com