tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post7947558576816473141..comments2023-11-05T02:10:50.039-07:00Comments on Drape's Takes: Comments, Responding, & TimelinessUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-50014844061146651142008-05-17T19:21:00.000-06:002008-05-17T19:21:00.000-06:00This is a great post and as a passionate Blogger w...This is a great post and as a passionate Blogger who is new to the game this topic has been very much on my mind. Here is how I would answer your questions.<BR/><BR/>• What are the time limits for conversation?<BR/>o None. That’s Soooo Web 1.0 when blogs were all about being a diary and chronological. To me every post lives forever and is forever relevant. I know I will continue pointing people I interact with to various posts as appropriate long after they’ve been written. Additionally, I will continue to update and revise each post as the need arises. <BR/>• Must I apologize for arriving late to a conversation - even if the conversation takes place on a medium as asynchronous as blogging?<BR/>o Nope. New ideas are always coming up and new people are always discovering you. The ideas and comments are timeless.<BR/>• As a blogger, should I feel guilty if I don't respond to comments made to posts that have long since found a home in the archives?<BR/>o No. It’s impossible to keep up with everything.<BR/>• Should this idea be included in our Edublogger Etiquette discussion? If so, I would prefer to use your examples rather than mine.<BR/>o Yes.<BR/>• Which posts have you written (and long since archived) that still receive comments?<BR/>o Those would be posts that I link to in other places so people are always finding these posts. Additionally, on discussion forums I often refer to past posts relevant to the conversation and people may find that post and comment on it. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the interesting post and ponderings.<BR/><BR/>Lisa Nielsen – The Innovative Educator<BR/>Read my blog on educating innovatively at http://TheInnovativeEducator.blogspot.comLisa Nielsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759123507185453030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-13999784757418400512008-05-17T03:22:00.000-06:002008-05-17T03:22:00.000-06:00The previous comments seem to indicate that the st...The previous comments seem to indicate that the style of the initial post makes a difference too. An instructional post, like how to add a voki to your blog, is going to be relevant for as long as there are bloggers who dont yet know how to add a voki. <BR/><BR/>The nature of previous comments may be relevant also. You might feel a bit late to the 'conversation' if there has been an active discussion in the comments between commentors and the blog author. But if previous comments are in isolation from each other, or your comment is coming from a different direction entirely, it wouldnt really matter. <BR/><BR/>Personally I am happy to comment on any post of interest, no matter how old, and as a blogger, I am thrilled to get any comments, no matter when.<BR/><BR/>Hmm, how frustrating I cant use my edublog account to comment anymore...Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04546460491822773036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-44523775080854882282008-05-16T09:20:00.000-06:002008-05-16T09:20:00.000-06:00Ken, thank you for the cultural lesson! I'm afrai...Ken, thank you for the cultural lesson! I'm afraid I've made yet another cultural blunder in exposing my ignorance regarding Maori greetings! I appreciate you taking the time to set me straight.<BR/><BR/>IMC Guy - Like you, I now try to follow every comment thread. I do so using email, RSS, and CoComment. Even with all of these tools, though, it can be difficult to keep up with it all.<BR/><BR/>Ka kite,<BR/><BR/>DarrenDarren Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578208859042859340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-24384307278290226312008-05-16T08:46:00.000-06:002008-05-16T08:46:00.000-06:00Great topic - I've been thinking about this quite ...Great topic - I've been thinking about this quite a bit lately becuase Google Reader is filling up. Sometimes I wonder if it's worth commenting on blogs I haven't read for a while because the posts were written a while ago. I wonder if the conversation is over and whether or not my comment will even be read. Darren's thoughts on Kim's comments share my thinking as well. I do feel a need to comment as soon as possible so that I'm part of the conversation. Nadine makes a great point, too.<BR/><BR/>Early on in my blogging life, I never had comments emailed to me or did a good job of monitoring posts I commented on. Now, I do and it's helped me keep in touch with what's been written in the past. This may be something others should do if they aren't already.IMC Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16279699282698965195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-36871284767777659152008-05-16T04:54:00.000-06:002008-05-16T04:54:00.000-06:00Hello Kia Ora Darren!I'm stoked that you appreciat...Hello <I>Kia Ora</I> Darren!<BR/><BR/>I'm stoked that you appreciated my metaphor for a post and its associated comment; I hope it also made my point.<BR/><BR/>Now about '<I>Ka kete</I>'. This, like <I>Kia Ora</I>, is a Maori phrase. <I>Ka kite</I>, pronounced ka-keetay, means 'Till we meet again' or 'See you soon'.<BR/><BR/>Nice to interact with you in timely fashion in cyberspace. <BR/><BR/>Cheers<BR/>Ken Allan<BR/><A HREF="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominionpost/4496831a23918.html" REL="nofollow">Middle-earth</A>Blogger In Middle-earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722634477041121797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-65529839034873862602008-05-14T09:15:00.000-06:002008-05-14T09:15:00.000-06:00Kim (mscofino) has spoken my mind:>Maybe this is j...Kim (mscofino) has spoken my mind:<BR/><BR/>>Maybe this is just my perception, but I often feel pressure to comment "in time" especially when commenting on a blog that gets lots of traffic. Sometimes I see an older post that I'd really like to comment on, but I feel like I've "missed my chance" - even though I'm pretty sure the author would appreciate the comments either way.<BR/><BR/>>Who's to say that we have to be reading everything the day it's written? Why can't I discover something years after it's been written and still find it just as powerful as the first day it was posted? Isn't that the ultimate compliment?<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, both sentiments feel like polar opposites (I've got to comment in time, but why can't I comment whenever I want?).<BR/><BR/>And I love Ka kite's example! I'm still chuckling to myself.Darren Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578208859042859340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-7577003663985473972008-05-14T04:33:00.000-06:002008-05-14T04:33:00.000-06:00I agree with all of the above comments - I don't t...I agree with all of the above comments - I don't think there <I>should</I> be a time limit to comment on posts (especially because, like the bloggers above, I truly appreciate all comments, no matter when they come). But, with all the rapid-fire comments that seem to appear seconds after entries are posted (on some blogs) sometimes I feel like there <I>is</I> a time limit. <BR/><BR/>Maybe this is just my perception, but I often feel pressure to comment "in time" especially when commenting on a blog that gets lots of traffic. Sometimes I see an older post that I'd really like to comment on, but I feel like I've "missed my chance" - even though I'm pretty sure the author would appreciate the comments either way.<BR/><BR/>Plus, seeing things like a "comments are closed" notice on a post, definitely gives the feeling that some authors prefer comments only when they're timely. <BR/><BR/>I think it all comes down to the authors tone and attitude towards responding to comments. I think we talked about making commenters feel welcome on day 10 of the comment challenge.<BR/><BR/>I guess my feeling is that some blog posts are timeless, and just because we come across them at a later date doesn't mean they're any less relevant to the reader than they were when they were posted. <BR/><BR/>Who's to say that we have to be reading everything the day it's written? Why can't I discover something years after it's been written and still find it just as powerful as the first day it was posted? Isn't that the ultimate compliment?<BR/><BR/>Btw, and slightly off topic (and maybe this has been covered here before) another thing that drives me crazy is Blogger blogs that don't allow for a Name/URL identity when commenting. I guess I really need to figure out this OpenID thing...Kim Cofinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02631206125412905449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-38755099657329498792008-05-14T03:23:00.000-06:002008-05-14T03:23:00.000-06:00Kia Ora Darren!The Pioneer plaques launched in 197...Kia Ora Darren!<BR/><BR/>The Pioneer plaques launched in 1972 and 1973 each carried a message for extraterrestrial intelligence. They are indelible asynchronous communications posted before the Internet and blogging were invented.<BR/><BR/>How funny if some millions of years into our future an enciphered comment comes back with an apology for the late reply.<BR/><BR/>Ka kite<BR/>from Middle-earthBlogger In Middle-earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722634477041121797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-52859216677579796112008-05-13T23:37:00.000-06:002008-05-13T23:37:00.000-06:00I would welcome comments on older posts, as like s...I would welcome comments on older posts, as like so many have said, would hope my posts still have relevance. That said, I don't find myself commenting on other people's older posts. I do feel like I missed the conversation. I will rethink this however, and think more about the blogger and how much we all love comments. If they have turned them off, then I guess they aren't that important to them. We all intersect with these blogs we create differently.Christine Martellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475948139385466432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-86827617165803252002008-05-13T21:43:00.000-06:002008-05-13T21:43:00.000-06:00@Sarah, I think that as long as you link back to t...@Sarah, I think that as long as you link back to the original post, people will be able to get the context of a discussion.<BR/><BR/>I did a series of posts on how to get into the field of instructional design last June. Those posts continue to get comments almost a year later. Partly that's because most of the current traffic for those posts is from search engines. (Search for "instructional designer skills" or "what does an instructional designer do" and you'll see why--I'm on the first page for both searches.) <BR/><BR/>Posts with good "Google juice" can attract new readers and comments long after they were first written. Those posts often tend to be ones that are good resources, like the cybersafety one you mentioned.<BR/><BR/>I don't think there's any etiquette reason why you shouldn't comment on an old conversation. Actually, I'm thrilled that the posts I did so long ago are still so useful to people that I get questions about them both as comments and privately.<BR/><BR/>To Sue's point about making old posts visible, I do list my top posts in my sidebar. Several of the ID career posts are there. Interlinking the posts helps too; once someone comes in from a search engine, they see the links to my related posts. I need to do better "sneeze pages" too; that would help people find the relevant information more easily. You're right, Sue, that it's never going to be as easy as a wiki, but we can do things to help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-50111649736546881632008-05-13T19:51:00.000-06:002008-05-13T19:51:00.000-06:00I agree with Sue that there should be no limit on ...I agree with Sue that there should be no limit on time for comments because time may cast a different light on old posts. I had a comment left on a post the other day that I had written several months ago. That resulted in a whole new conversation and new blog post. The only snag was getting people to look at the old post in the archive - there was some disconnection between the old post/new comment & new resulting post (hope that made sense!)Sarah Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00480597227427423793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-45270944301726482242008-05-13T18:22:00.000-06:002008-05-13T18:22:00.000-06:00I don't think there is any time limit on the conve...I don't think there is any time limit on the conversation. If anything its a complement to receive comments on old posts because it indicates readers still find its content useful. And its an even greater honor if they link to an old post. <BR/><BR/>Saying that there are some bloggers that set up their blogs to only allow comments for a specified period (what does this imply?).<BR/><BR/>However it is harder to respond back to comments on older posts as its easy to forget. <BR/><BR/>An example of a post still receiving comments is <A HREF="http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2008/02/24/adding-a-voki-speaking-avatar-to-a-post-or-page-of-your-blog/" REL="nofollow">Adding a Voki to a Page or A Post</A>. This still receives comments after 3 months. The key to getting comments on old posts lies in the mechanisms of how you make readers aware of your buried treasure :) . <BR/><BR/>Here lies the true challenge of blogging because the reality for most blogs is you are only as good as your last post. People are more likely to located and use old content on wikis than blogs due to difference in the two tools.<BR/><BR/>Sue Waters<BR/><A HREF="http://aquaculturepda.edublogs.org/" REL="nofollow">Mobile Technology in TAFE</A>Sue Watershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13230898483382609377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-89567990243793724712008-05-13T16:46:00.000-06:002008-05-13T16:46:00.000-06:00I thought about this subject yesterday, as I poste...I thought about this subject yesterday, as I posted the link to the work of Uwe Schmidt, who developed a Mac version of Johnny Chung Lee's Wii-mote Whiteboard (low cost alternative to the big-name interactive whiteboards). The post is here: http://tinyurl.com/5rydec but the bigger point is that, like our PLNs continue to bring the important topics to us even when we get behind, the "good stuff" continues to draw an audience -- weeks or months later!<BR/><BR/>Also, I'll agree with Nadine... I sometimes trip upon a blog by accident, and it's not the most recent post that "gets me". Sometimes it's one that was archived a few weeks back. Again, the cream rises to the top.Kymberli Mulfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07438233396355507997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1293651735518246988.post-40053704229420194102008-05-13T14:54:00.000-06:002008-05-13T14:54:00.000-06:00Here's something to keep in mind. Many times one h...Here's something to keep in mind. Many times one has just visited a blog for the first time, they might explore and read previous posts - ones they've never had an opportunity to read before. If someone comments to a blog post, it means that the content is relevant to them. They feel compelled to respond because they are touched in some way to what is said. My blog is not read by many people, and I've received only a few comments - all of which have come several weeks after the post was written. I get an email when a comment comes through, so I know I someone has commented to a post. I don't care how long it's been since I've posted. Commenting means that the reader feels compelled to add to the content. That's always a good thing.Nadine Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14537359622742543858noreply@blogger.com